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 SENSEIBRYON |
Belt Ranking
Nov 16 2007, 2:56 PM EST I have heard of other Martial Art schools that the teacher promotes himself to a higher rank. Is that accectable?? 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
 senseikp |
RE: Belt Ranking
Nov 22 2007, 2:55 PM EST Maybe before the interenet came to life those master could get away with that kind of stuff, but anyone doing that " rank yourself thing" will be busted by thier students, or a dojo down the road. Does this mean it want happen any more? .... sure it will ....there are pleaty of meatballs out there. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
 CoachTarbell |
RE: Belt Ranking
Nov 28 2007, 1:00 PM EST I think that our society is so competetive that many martial arts teachers feel that they need to be a higher rank to establish themselves for their business, ego, and legendary status. I believe that only a 2nd dan or above should be able to run their own school, and if they are under that rank then they should have someone higher rank shadow them for quality control, support, and promotional considerations until they build themselves up the correct way. Internet or not a good teacher/martial artist doesn't need a high rank. A true teacher/martialartist is confident in their skills and is humble enough to understand that martial arts are about the art and the students not the rank. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SENSEIBRYON |
RE: Belt Ranking
Dec 9 2007, 9:13 AM EST Ture That, Someone should have told "Fisher" that!!! 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CoachTarbell |
RE: Belt Ranking
Dec 9 2007, 4:42 PM EST I think alot of Masters have done that and the sad part is that all the students they teach should love their Sensei for the good example he or she puts forward, not their rank. A good Sensei is good because of who they are as a person, it is sad that many instructors feel so insecure that they have to boost their ranks instead of trying to confirm that the examples they put forward to the young martial minds are Confidence, Honor, Love, Respect, Bravery, and Humility. There is no "self " in the Martial Arts, there is only the Martial Arts. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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senseikp |
RE: Belt Ranking
Dec 10 2007, 10:12 PM EST There is no "self " in the Martial Arts, there is only the Martial Arts ...Well said. For us as teachers there is only one most important thing , "our students" and a big part of our responsibility to them is to stay true in our own character. CHARACTER: The total sum of the qualities making up an individual: moral excellence. How can this be done by lying about our own rank , What will happen when the student finds out? It will make the student lose faith in his teacher. These masters may have lost their way along the way or maybe they themselves watched their instructors do the same thing, and they think it is the only way one goes about high ranking. Most of these people ( grandmaster so and so) don't train with anyone who could go about promoting them the right way in any case. More truth is that when stuff like this happens it leaves even the good guys questioning the rank that they earned from these people. What would happen if a guy (4th Dan) jumped up to his 8th Dan rank and then his 9th the next year. This happened here in Mass. The sad part is that he did not rank himself it was done by an another GM here in the New England area. While I am sure it was hard for the 4Th Dan to say "thanks but no thanks" it goes to show how thighs happen here in USA. What will his student say or feel .... " wow my master must be really good"... I don't think so. I would have to feel bad for the students. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |